Description

The R380 gearbox was introduced in approx 1995 with the suffix J and has now evolved to the suffix L and this has been used until the end of the Disco 2’s and until 2007 in the Defender when the 2.4 TDCi engine was introduced which uses the MT82.

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We have many noise issues reported on R380’s when fitted to the TD5 engines when a single mass flywheel is used instead of the stock duel mass type, the single mass flywheels make the gearboxes ‘chatter’ badly on idle and when not under load, this does not appear to be detrimental to the gearbox but does not sound good at all, we do not treat this as a gearbox fault, its caused by the single mass flywheel transferring the knock of the diesel engine to the gearbox and making the gearbox rattle.

Heavy Duty Rear Support Bearings

One of the common failure modes of the R380 is premature wear of one or both of the rear support bearings in the rear 5th speed aluminium housing, this starts as a whirring in all gears but not so bad in 4th, then as the bearings wear it allows the 5th gear on the layshaft and 5th gear on the mainshaft to come a little out of mesh, then 5th also gets noisy and often results in the teeth coming of one or both of the 5th gears, after much design work we are now able to offer to upgrade these two bearings.

The Layshaft rear support bearing is FTC2385, this is made by RHP and has a dynamic load rating of 27Kn, we replace this with a larger bearing of equivalent quality which has a dynamic load rating of 35.5Kn, this is a 31% increase. See below a comparison photo of stock vs our HD one.

The Mainshaft rear support bearing is FTC3371, this is made by RHP and has a dynamic load rating of 27.4Kn, we replace this with a larger bearing of equivalent quality which has a dynamic load rating of 44Kn, this is a 60% increase. See below a comparison photo of stock vs our HD one.

This upgrade would be advised for any hard working R380 such as heavy/tuned TD5 vehicles, ie overlanders or tow vehicles,

R380 5th gear ratio

All TDi and TD5 R380 5th gear ratios are 0.77, the V8 ratio is 0.732 which is approx 5% higher, we are able to fit these higher ratio 5th gears to the TDi and TD5 boxes for an additional charge if required. If you want to run these numbers on the ratio calculator, please select the type 69A R 380 option but this is for the 5th gear ratios only, all other gears will remain the same. An example of when this option would be good is if you have a stock TD5 Defender which does some heavy towing, you might not want the 1.2 ratio gears in the transfer case as this would raise 1st too much and it may struggle to pull away but you want 5th a bit higher, or you have a tuned TD5 Disco / Defender and feel it can pull higher gearing but the 1.003 ratio is too high.

Different types of R 380

The manual boxes can be categorised as “Long Stick” as fitted to the Defender and “Short Stick” as fitted to the Disco.

If your serial number starts with any of the following then you have a longstick : 50A, 51A, 56A, 58A, 60A, 61A, 66A, 68A, 74A

If your serial number starts with any of the following then you have a shortstick : 53A, 55A, 63A, 67A, 69A, 73A

The longstick boxes come with the top casting that the gearlever and turret bolt to but you will need to remove the following from the old unit : the bellhousing and dowels, transfer case dowels, gearlever and turret and diff lock pivot bolt if fitted.

The shortstick boxes come with remote top assembly but you will need to swap over the bellhousing & dowels, transfer case dowels, extension gearstick and diff lock pivot bolt.

The only exception to the above is the 64A and 65A, these come less bellhousing and less remote shifter.

 

Videos

Video of a R380 being built

 

Video of a rebuilt R380 being tested. We dunk the gearbox in water to check for air bubbles, as this could mean a leak.

 

Where to find the serial number on a R380

 

Videos to show what each type of R380 is supplied with

Long Stick

 

Short Stick

 

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